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| | Jul 6 2009 00:52:42
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
| | andy u were outstanding
congrats
but u must feeldisappointed
roger was sublime
how did roger hold his nerves without being abble to break andy serve
only roger cpuld beat this andy today
congrats both
amazing drama & tennis |
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| | Jul 5 2009 22:29:39
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | Yes all-in-all nice final and well played by both guys. Nice for Fed to make more history. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 21:45:36
MrLeusk (Mod)
164 (601) Aces
+$301 ROI:+26.2% 38%
| | A great match, but you could see as the fifth set wore on that Roddick's serve was becoming less and less effective and Federer started holding more easily.
The interesting thing about this match is that it was very similar to the Soderling vs Federer match with a much closer outcome. Had Federer converted the break point in the first set it would have been pretty much identical. Roddick was on a hot streak and after being tested to extreme levels this week he was executing extremely well taking 40% of break points and keeping Federer to 1 out of 7. Good for Roddick, but the truth is, with Federer winning 79% of serve points and 28% of return points, with 107 winners to 38 unforced errors, Roddick was lucky to get this close. Statistically, Federer beat Roddick more easily than he beat Soderling.
It would have been a fluke if Roddick won.
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| | Jul 5 2009 20:35:26
csoda0
150 (2267) Aces
-$246 ROI:-3.7% 82%
| | | I hope too that one day, Andy will win this trophy. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 18:35:43
Merlinux
0 (20) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | A true legend. I really feel for Andy. He tries so hard. He deserves to win. Unlucky to be in the Federer Era.
Andy I really hope you win Wimbledon some day. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 18:34:19
Merlinux
0 (20) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Andy Roddick what a legend. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 18:23:16
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | @John - Thanks :-) sounds very nice.. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 18:05:10
johndory49 (Mod)
366 (19598) Aces
+$222 ROI:+0.9% 73%
| | | @rafa ... if you are missing Wimbledon ... the tour de france is great eye candy ... beautiful scenery, wonderful cuisine and recipes (on our SBS channel anyway) ... and a race ... a good excuse to wine and dine on French stuff!!!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 18:01:45
johndory49 (Mod)
366 (19598) Aces
+$222 ROI:+0.9% 73%
| | Congratulations & commiserations ... especially to Andy Roddick and his tippers. From the glimpses I allowed myself Andy's service was so good ... there really should have been two winners.
By the way I prayed really hard at 6-2 in the 2nd set tie break!!!
Thank you God. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:59:53
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:57:34
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | Can`t believe Wimbledon over for another year. Goes so quick :-( |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:54:59
Breezer
0 (1919) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | unbelievable match! congratulations Roger!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:43:13
scooby99
0 (921) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | well done rog. you deserved it. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:41:38
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:41:07
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
| | federer did not break him once before the end
its so crazy
definitely one of the greatest match ever with last year final
crazyy
congrattss roger
congrats champion
hi pete! love u
epic |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:39:28
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | I don`t think todays match come close to matching last year final. But todays final was very good. Wouldn`t be in my top 5 though. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:31:28
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Karlovic will trash Rodick in friday in Davis Cup!! haha |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:29:55
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Roddick lost his legs at the end there... extra match play finally took its toll. Shouldnt have come to it if he'd just taken that 2nd set tie break... as the crowd chants RODDICK RODDICK I say good night and good luck. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:29:04
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | I'm tired like i was playing it. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:29:00
arfster (Mod)
Ace Leader #3
1533 (9662) Aces
+$788 ROI:+14.7% 66%
| | Shame it had to end like that, with Roddick erroring all over as he hit the tiredness wall.
Unfortunately for him, this shows quite how superhuman fit Federer is. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:28:45
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
-$188 ROI:-7.8% 79%
| | | waheyy! what a match. has this eclipsed last years final???? |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:27:50
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | What a thrilling match, it was nice to watch it along with you guys. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:27:32
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Great match guys! Well done to both of them!!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:26:00
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Now guys give me a break, now only first service is holding on Roddick.... :) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:25:06
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Yes, Roddick is really tired... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:24:46
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
-$188 ROI:-7.8% 79%
| | | what crap returns!!! 40-40, rod with a tired shot! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:23:03
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:22:43
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | I agree pmanso... I think this will be the one. Federer to break and win. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:22:22
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Only once losing his serve in whole final and its all over for Andy. How sad |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:22:07
arfster (Mod)
Ace Leader #3
1533 (9662) Aces
+$788 ROI:+14.7% 66%
| | lol, Federer isn't even sweating.
Have to guess the 5 sets vs Hewitt will catch up with roddick now. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:19:32
arfster (Mod)
Ace Leader #3
1533 (9662) Aces
+$788 ROI:+14.7% 66%
| | | This set must be about twice as long as the entire Venus-Safina semifinal....... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:16:39
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:13:32
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | God damn Federer, stop the slices, come to the net, do something diferent........ |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:09:15
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | My Over 38,50 bet looks funny now. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:08:20
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | I hope it's soon, I can't take this anymore. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:07:47
arfster (Mod)
Ace Leader #3
1533 (9662) Aces
+$788 ROI:+14.7% 66%
| | | Fed is gunning for the all-time ace record..... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:06:05
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Anybody knows when this match is gonna be over?? |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:05:41
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
-$188 ROI:-7.8% 79%
| | | shocking returns from fed, im with roddick to win this 1 now! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:02:45
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | I'm gonna lose money if Federer loses but I'm almost hoping that Roddick wins. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 17:00:32
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:59:51
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Federer is also playing awfull right now. Can't keep the ball in court. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:59:03
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | I think Roddick deserves it more. Fedex can wait for his records...
Go Roddick! I never used to like the guy but he has turned me around in this tournament. It really is a new Roddick in so many ways! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:56:53
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | I belive that even Roddick never saw himself play like this :) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:54:02
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | This is great performance by Roddick. In 5 sets Federer couldn't find the way to break him even once. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:52:43
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | At this point of the game and the way Roddick is playing you are right. I never saw him play like this. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:51:27
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | More likely its Federer all about the serve here,haha. So far 40 aces. What a match! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:44:49
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
-$188 ROI:-7.8% 79%
| | @ pmanso
I bet you wish you hadnt said roddick is all about the serve |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:44:24
tallguy71
13 (981) Aces
+$424 ROI:+2.9% 58%
| | | crikey Fedex is so damn cool under pressure.....Roddick nearly had him there but Fedex just slammed the door in his face! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:42:31
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | @pmanso Are you watching the game pmanso? :)
Do you realize how much strength is there on Roddick shots and how much spin, actually he is plaing fantastic shots and there is not better prove for that than he is putting Federer on the upper edge of his ability and still not enough to beat him |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:41:56
tallguy71
13 (981) Aces
+$424 ROI:+2.9% 58%
| | just got home and turned on bbc1 1.....can't believe Roddick has taken him to 5th set! Just heard Roddick was 6-1 up in 2nd set tiebreak as well and somehow managed to lose it???
Great for the nuetral and tennis in general and who'd of thought we'd have another epic final like last year again!
I'd love Roddick to win as theres no one more deserving but also Fedex to extend his historic GS record and career.
15-30 Federer serving could this be it!
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:40:40
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | In one of the last games, we could so one Roddick forehand from middle base line he kicked with so much spin and ball falls close to federer but Federer missed all court, for the stats that was unforced error but shot had so much spin and was so strong, to play that he needs to be very low with knees to have enough space to response on so much spin, ball was fast not enough time to get low and that's main reason why Federer sent in out. For the stats it is unforced but actually Roddick played great shot before that. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:38:41
arfster (Mod)
Ace Leader #3
1533 (9662) Aces
+$788 ROI:+14.7% 66%
| | | I've been wondering for a while when Federer's poor returns these last two years would catch up with him. It's cost him in masters mainly, but not in slams. Today might be that day. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:38:31
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | srllemo are you whatching the game? Of course I mean when that are in a rallie. Not responding the service. Please..... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:36:29
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | @pmanso probably because he is getting bombs from other side above 220kmph :) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:35:33
scooby99
0 (921) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | julian@ yes I'd settle for a draw or flee, fly, flobang |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:35:30
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:35:19
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | 10-2 in unforced errors for Roger!! Not good for him |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:33:05
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | have you guys noticed Nastase and Borg in the crowd few tinmes camera catch them in exchanging the money obviously betting during the match :)
Few minutes ago they showed Nastase counting money and before that Borg taking money out of his pocket and giving it to Nastase behind him :)
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:31:26
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | How about we just let them both win :-) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:21:03
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | No Tie break,Roger has the advantage of first serve. Its important |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:20:27
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Hmmm...Killer i disagree...35 aces from Fedrer,only Federer can beat Federer now. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:20:05
scooby99
0 (921) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | is this final set settled by a tie-break or do they carry on playing til someone wins by 2 games? |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:16:27
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Why is Federer playing soo soft, every time he acelerates he wins the point, every he plays Murray style he loses... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:14:56
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
-$188 ROI:-7.8% 79%
| | | OK,so fed has not broken the roddick serve and the last set does not go to tie break, i think its going to be hard for fed, the only way he wins i believe is if roddick gets anxious! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 16:08:01
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | This Federer is all about the serve :-) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:59:18
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | I also agree St-bookie. Fed was lucky winning Roland Garros not playing Rafa, Djokovic, or Murray. And same for Wimbledon. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:54:40
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | He deserved this fifth set!!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Andy!!! I dont care my tip here was for Roger i really wish to see Federer losing after he was so lucky Rafa got injured and that somehow he avoided Murray and Djokovic last 2 months. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:54:35
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | | Well i really couldn`t say where this is going. I just feel Federer haven`t played his best today looks flat just my opinion. But it all comes down to this final set. Can Fed raise his game (needs to). |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:54:09
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Yes, he does it! Now the pressure really is on! 5th set here we come... no tie break! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:50:37
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | @jgrover I agree, if Andy can keep his level of play I think he has chances to win the match. He passed trough this shock loosing 2nd set in tie break after 6:2 lead, and now he is again winning set, I think in 5th set all pressure in the world will be on Roger and that gives Roddick nice chance. He just need to hold and win this 4th set. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:45:11
jgrover
0 (795) Aces
-$162 ROI:-40.6% 50%
| | | I think Roddick still has good chance. Showing great mental strength, apart from loss of nerve in 2nd tiebreak. It seems to me that Federer still suffers from loss of confidence under pressure at business end of sets, makes a lot of miss-hits and overlong forehands when under pressure. If Roddick can maintain his intensity and focus, he can still do it. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:42:21
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | Roddick has broken Federer twice in this match... I dont think that has much to do with his big first server pmanso.
;-) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:36:45
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | LOL, perfect play by Roddick and little help from wind and he has break in 4th set, jsut to hold his services and he will get into 5 set match, and even Roger can't bee so cool in 5 set match in Wimbledon final. I think Roger can lost much more than Andy and I am completely amazed with mental power of Roddick. Old Roddick would be so nervous after tie break in second set and probably wouldn't win more than 6 games till the end of the match, but this one Roddick is something new to see.. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:26:29
rafanadal85 (Mod)
Ace Leader #5
1038 (18403) Aces
-$2,180 ROI:-8.7% 58%
| | Rafa number 1 :-)
He got Wimbledon next year :-) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:23:12
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | @pmanso Roddick is keeping above 70% first service level so long in his last matches almost during whole tournament, and that is something fantastic, if you can't see that this is fantastic try to go on court and hit 70 of 100 services with 50% strength of Roddick service :) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:22:57
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Dementieva-Serena...the way she won that match i should have known she will take the Slam...it usualy goes that way. Its important to have Queen Fortune on your side. Federer haves it! ...the first second Rafa got injured... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:21:31
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | @pmanso NO pmanso even rafa can't especially not in Wimbledon, and please look on stats from Rava vs Roger matches and try to find Rafa win with low level of his service. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:20:11
Taylor_LFC
0 (973) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Would have been a great match had Roddick took that 2nd set. Sadly he bottled it as most do against Fed. Game over. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:20:08
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:17:37
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | @pmanso m8 every player in the world has to depend on own first service agaist Roger federer. It is not anyone it is Roger and please try to find me player who defeated him in last 6 or 7 years and did that without good leevl of own first service. It is impossible it is not some spanish clay court player ranked at 150 place that can be defeated even if you serve 35% of first service. The match is completely even and you could also see that very much in Federer play is also very dependent of his first service. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 15:09:25
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | This remainds me on Chelsea-Barcelona match. Its just destiny that Roger take this Slam again. One way or another... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:56:28
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
| | if he does he will have another chance maybe
thats the only wish of andy, its to reach tie break again
federer serving first is another thing |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:55:11
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
| | | i hardly see andy holding to another tie break in this decisive 3rd set |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:46:57
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
| | damn it was hot in this tie break damn it
o my god
thats emotions
cmon roger |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:45:31
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | @pmanso For sure Federer is a better player,but coming from Croatia and watching Karlovic i have to admire Rodick and just dream that Karlovic could learn and accept just 30% of Andy's game. Rodick is a proffesor for one dimensonal Karlovic...and saying he haves only serve its poor. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:44:51
Bellorino
6 (268) Aces
+$272 ROI:+16.0% 55%
| | | @pmanso. Give it a break. Of course he is very dependant on his first service however his all court game has improved dramitically. Im sick of reading rubbish posts. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:42:13
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Well Andy should remember he was lucky in the first set. Saving 4 brake points just to use first break and set point in the set. Roger returned that fortune on his side,but they are Even now,and everything starts again from the begining!! My Over games ticket finished happy !!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:40:37
julian
0 (169) Aces
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| | | @KillerRS, Roddick missed a high backhand volley putaway at 6-2, he then couldn't buy a 1st serve and Federer... was Federer. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:38:48
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
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| | | I think what happened gives me right about Andys dependency of his first service. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:38:03
catscratch666 (Read Only)
0 (3980) Aces
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| | C'mon Roger. Bring it home for your backers.
I do believe Andy will get steamrolled from here. My hands are already rubbing at the prospect of another good pay day. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:36:42
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
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| | WHAT!?
I went to the toilet after the score was 5-1 thinking F*** this roddicks guna go 2-0 up, come back and its 7-6 to fer serving for the set, unbelievable!!!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:36:31
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Andy might be gone now... those backhand volleys... so so bad. His confidence will be shot now. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:36:05
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | | LOOOOOOLLLLLL. Perfect playing by Andy Roddick until 6:2 lead in tie break and after that he missed his first services, his greatest weapon failed for him. Don't know what to say, I think that he will be mantally down after this, at least old Roddick would be for sure in this situation but before match I didn't think that he can be so good so who knows maybe he can keep playing like most of the match. Everything is possible and most of this is in Andy's head |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:34:21
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
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| | | How did Roger pull this one against the Tie Break kings.... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:33:46
johndory49 (Mod)
366 (19598) Aces
+$222 ROI:+0.9% 73%
| | | ... any interest in this match? ;) |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:33:19
Davesook
0 (61) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:33:02
st-bookie
395 (4790) Aces
+$762 ROI:+5.9% 74%
| | | Oh Andy,Andy...its like you are 19 again. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:32:35
Punisher19
523 (5788) Aces
+$2,130 ROI:+11.4% 73%
| | | Now this is tennis.God bless both guys for providing such an entertaining final |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:28:41
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:28:02
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Ok, this is gonne for Federer... |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:24:29
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
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| | | @KillerRS: lets do something, if we toke 20/30km off Roddick's service he would be just an average player, no doubts about that. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:21:53
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
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| | @ pmanso
Roddick is just not serve, how can you possibly say that, he's game has moved on so much from "just" a serve |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:15:01
pmanso
0 (312) Aces
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| | | What a crap of a game. That is what happens when you get a player like Roddick. He's only service.... What a diference from last year's final. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:11:53
KillerRS
203 (3519) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 14:05:00
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | sorry 7-5.
I think so! I reckon Federer is starting to panic a little now. God I hope he doesn't cry again!
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:59:07
Davesook
0 (61) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | First set was 7-5 not 6-4. Any chance Roddick could actually do this? |
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:50:42
Taylor_LFC
0 (973) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:50:22
julian
0 (169) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Oh boy! Roddick takes first set 6-4. Game on! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:40:16
adavies
226 (1013) Aces
+$127 ROI:+2.3% 67%
| | | at least u guys get a red bull air race ;p |
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:26:24
Sheldon888
0 (66) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Ch9 Perth is not showing this match live...incredible. My city is still living in the 50's era. Luckily there's www.atdhe.net livestream. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:12:42
adavies
226 (1013) Aces
+$127 ROI:+2.3% 67%
| | | can anyone remember what the condition of the court was last year for final? looks ok to me this year |
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| | Jul 5 2009 13:11:16
adavies
226 (1013) Aces
+$127 ROI:+2.3% 67%
| | | nice opening serve... plenty of adrenalin from a-rod |
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| | Jul 5 2009 12:54:51
allyho
32 (344) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 12:39:10
Sheldon888
0 (66) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | Federer won 3-0 in the last 3 grand slams against Roddick, or 4 of the last 5 against the big American server. In this year's Wimbledon, he won in straight sets against Soderling, Karlovic and Haas, all big or huge servers.
Maybe 3-0 is the value bet on Federer. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 12:18:07
ljuboo
50 (1996) Aces
+$75 ROI:+8.9% 73%
| | Roddick can surprise and take one set in TB, first or second.
Fedex will win, no doubt.
3-0 or 3-1. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 11:46:18
johndory49 (Mod)
366 (19598) Aces
+$222 ROI:+0.9% 73%
| | | Corals are offering 1.143 on Federer. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 10:31:32
Breezer
0 (1919) Aces
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| | Jul 5 2009 10:09:42
lapnoir
0 (73) Aces
+$72 ROI:+3.9% 79%
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| | Jul 5 2009 09:01:54
connor911
0 (212) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 08:59:39
gipsy1
13 (418) Aces
+$496 ROI:+4.0% 65%
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| | Jul 5 2009 08:42:20
upstart
0 (324) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | Serve
Andy Roddick’s serve needs no introduction. Has pace and precision, as does Roger Federer’s. The Swiss’ consistent service motion makes it harder to read.
Return of serve
Roddick is not known for being an excellent returner, though he did take advantage of Murray’s weak second serve. Federer has been able to read and return Roddick’s serve at will for years.
Grass-court pedigree
Federer is the greatest grass-court player of all time, says five Wimbledon titles, and a seventh consecutive final. Roddick is now a three-time finalist, so he is hardly a mug on the surface.
All-round game
Roddick was always thought of as a one-trick pony. But with coach Larry Stefanki, he has discovered he has some more tools in his box, including a drop-shot no one really knew he had. Federer has every weapon there is.
So in a nutshell this is by no means going to be a walkover for Federer and a word of warning for all you TI members that this is yet another match that is a lose lose situation for percentage bankroll bettors. For argument sake lets all say there is value on Roddick, when you bet 10% of your bankroll then that will erode the value and you will lose money and like I said earlier it will not be a walkover for Federer so I wont be taking him at these prices.
This was a great wimbledon and the funniest thing i saw throughout was a picture of Andy Murray after his loss with the caption "Does that mean hes scottish again?" |
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| | Jul 5 2009 08:09:25
Telkom
90 (2520) Aces
-$100 ROI:-97.9% 67%
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| | Jul 5 2009 07:53:06
sapinunc
8 (170) Aces
+$343 ROI:+2.1% 80%
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| | Jul 5 2009 07:21:13
KiLLerLooP
717 (4044) Aces
+$1,753 ROI:+14.6% 51%
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| | Jul 5 2009 06:27:10
Merlinux
0 (20) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Andy deserves a Wimbledon title after all his hard work throughout the years. He's playing better than ever and Roger although still brilliant isn't invincible like a few years ago. SO CMON AROD!! |
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| | Jul 5 2009 05:38:23
RogueScholar
51 (1419) Aces
-$393 ROI:-1.5% 60%
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| | Jul 5 2009 03:12:00
BTTNext
0 (40) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 03:10:41
Cirstea
867 (9211) Aces
+$81 ROI:+0.3% 61%
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| | Jul 5 2009 03:03:50
kingy9494 (Mod)
689 (10270) Aces
+$1,827 ROI:+3.0% 68%
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| | Jul 5 2009 01:51:08
Matt Rain
0 (100) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
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| | Jul 5 2009 01:48:50
Has123
20 (623) Aces
-$425 ROI:-15.1% 42%
| | | William hill is offering this at 6.00 odds you should try it there if you think its a reasonable bet |
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| | Jul 5 2009 01:39:22
Has123
20 (623) Aces
-$425 ROI:-15.1% 42%
| | | Stan James are offering a 1st set victory to Andy Roddick in a tiebreak at 5 to 1 odds. I think this is a very good bet. |
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| | Jul 5 2009 01:15:29
brumbiesjeff (Mod)
483 (3629) Aces
-$206 ROI:-13.1% 71%
| | | Any Roddick fans care for an Ace challenge? You get to name the odds .....within some sort of reason :-) Let me know, honours system will apply |
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| | Jul 5 2009 00:42:07
srllemo
327 (8041) Aces
-$757 ROI:-10.0% 40%
| | Is there any tactic to beat Roger Federer. Well, there was few thinks that all players who tried to beat him always trying to do. Forcing the shots on his backhand side when ever they can during the match. Not because his backhand is weak but because he is less dangerous when he gets a ball on backhand side. Roger can play fantastic backhands but there is more probability for Roger to miss that shot, make some unforced error etc. But sending the ball only in backhand side is not enough, beside that for all points there had to be plan in game and always have to count on fact that Roger Federer is probably with Sampras and Agassi the player who is thinking during the match and he is able to change his tactics and always trying to make some new approach if he feels that his current game style is not enough to make difference in the match. Probably only player who managed to surprise Roger with tactics and approach to the game was Rafael Nadal in last year epic final in Wimbledon. All world have been convinced that Nadal can't beat him on the grass in Wimbledon but Rafa managed to do that with few additions into his game where Roger couldn't find appropriate answer. First Nadal prepared few variations of his slice service and presented this to Roger who couldn't find the answer in that match on grass for those services and had major problem with returning in that match, and that was big job for Nadal cause Roger's returns was one of his major weapon in grass court that always brought him more chances to play on opponent service, to enter in the point and have a chance to take initiative during the point, and in that field Federer is perfect. Beside that services Nadal used his forehand with more spin than ever and his forehands perfectly suited with that spin on grass court, so during the rallies Federer had additional problem to take initiative to be aggressive. With that half job for Rafa was done, and major concern was be focused in Roger service games to reach break points. Rafael Nadal is probably best returner in the world, and I think he (or his team) payed much attentions to read all service variation that Federer use to make Rafa able to read that services better.
Beside those tactics that was used by very few players who managed to beat Federer in last few years probably it is possible to invent something new. It can be invent by player or his trainer but at the and player should be one who needs to implement invented tactics on the field. In today tennis I noticed just few players who are able to think about own tactics pre match or during the match, or that are able to implement anything new that can be used against Federer. So, main question for final match:
Is Andy Roddick able to surprise Federer with anything new in his tactics. With his service I think he can't made any surprise for Federer, Roger knows very well all the variations in service that Roddick can use, and during the match I think he will returning better and better. He is only one who break service to might Karlovic. Before the match on BBC Greg Rusedski talked about Karlovic service and what we can expect to see from Roger Federer when Karlovic is serving. And he said that it is sure that Roger will be positioned behind base line one or even two meters before Karlovic first service, just like Tsonga and Verdasco did. But in first few games played we could see Roger standing one meter from base line but inside the court. That counfused Karlovic, his first service percentage was lower than usual in this first games, and on his second service Roger was standing one meter more inside. Verdasco and Tsonga tried to react on Karlovic service behind base line and ball deflection that is unusualy high and unpredictable made them problems they couldn't solve in all match, and during the match because they couldn't solve problem of service and thinking that is impossible to make something in his service games his confident was raising and he keeped his very high service percentage for all match. Roger Federer reacted on second service standing inside the court, knowing that on second service Karlovic is using service on Federer Backhand side that is after deflection with lot of spin deflect wide out of the court. But Roger reacted just with positioning his racket very low he didn't allowed the ball to make high deflection because ball was bouncing of his racket after deflection very early in climbing. With perfect positioning of his racket he managed to make few returns just to deflect ball in Karlovic's half of court and enter into the point. That made him early break chance and he converted that chance, and that was early kick in Karlovic confidence. That is the way how Federer is approaching the games. I think that Andy Roddick is not that kind of player. He had perfect tactics against Murray but tactics is obviously made by ex Murray coach who knows very well how to play to defeat Murray. But Murray is still young player who is still improving and it is much easier to get him out of his usual style of play than experienced Roger who also know very well what kind of play he can expect of Roddick.
Andy Roddick made great job against Murray and Murray helped him lot with his low level percentage of first service and very weak second services. Actually I think Murray was so much self confident that he didn't expected at all that Roddick can play with him points in longer rallies. He simply underestimated Roddick's gorund shots and while serving his second service he paid much more attention to shot service inside the field avoiding double errors than to the accuracy and strength of this service. He is not kind of player that likes to risk and that is something you can't avoid in big matches on GS. Tommy Haas did all that risking, making a lot of double faults but as a result of his aggressive second service. Murray was so confident in his advantage in rallies that risking in second service was not option to him at all, and even worse for him number of his second services in match was huge due to the low percentage of first.
Against Federer I don't think that Roddick will be able to "enter" in points so often because Roger on this tournament is serving fantastic, and beside his first service percentage is so big he make so many variations of his services in this surface. Roger admit that his service success making him great advantage to avoid as he said "those 30 situations like 0:30; 15:30 etc), and avoiding those situations means for him less pressure on his own service, easier winning of his service games and make him able tobe more relaxed on opponent service finding the way to reach some break points.
I think only way for Roddick to break Roger is some game with 2 or more double faults in same game, some miss of eassy volley some gournd shot made wide and some point that Roddick manages to win with some winner by him. Is that kind of service game possible to happen to Roger Federer now when he is in great form. I can't beleive. My oppinion is that something like that can happen to Roger only if he loose first to sets, but as I said I think that only way in early stage of the match for Roger to loose set by Roddick can be tie break .
I think that it is possible to have first set without breaks that goes in tie break. Roddick has high self confidence, last two games (Hewit and Mrray) he is keeping his huge service percentage more than 70% and with his pace in service it is not impossible for him to hold first 6 games and enter into the tie break. He i one of the best tie breakers in the tour but Federer will be hard for him to beat in tie break.
Even if he win first set in some tie break scenario, he will need to win one more to move Federer out of his self confidence and make him nervous. I think he can't do that, Roger knows how to play even when he is down with score, and I expect Roger Federer to win. What score it will be I don't know, i think that best option is to wait for first set to end and then make some decisions.
Personally I expect Roger to amaze us with some fantastic returns just like against Karlovic and break Roddick serivice maybe even in first set. But all thos options with Federer win, Federer wins first set etc are very low with odds, and I don't want to risk because Roddick is big server and he can holds his services and come to tie break.
Bet 365 offers odd 2.75 for tie break in first set and that can be considered as some small value because I think chances for tie breaks are 50:50.
But I will not take that bet for 2.75 as my option, in this match I will try to predict final score trough handycap. Bet365 offers handy -6 for Federer that is 3-way handy with odd 7.0. It is score scenario just like the score in match Federer Hass (7:6;7:5;6:3), in my thoughts this scenario can be seen, one tie break in match and two sets where Fed breaks Roddick one time per set. Odd is high so I will try with small stake. All those bets I could found for me are not value and offers small odds comparing to my prediction of chances for those options.
For TI tipping I will choose Federer, but not even in my dream I wouldn't pay money for such a low odd bets. (I am not betting singles with odd below 1.7 and there is some interesting tomorow to take in consideration, like Maximo Gonzales tb Starace, and Gabashvilli tb King Oscar ;) )
Good luck to all m8s !
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| | Jul 4 2009 23:54:09
adavies
226 (1013) Aces
+$127 ROI:+2.3% 67%
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| | Jul 4 2009 22:54:58
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | "Is there anything in the world that Federer gets more enjoyment out of than beating Roddick? No."
lol, don't really know what you mean by that, perhaps you think Roddick and Federer are some sort of comic-book sworn-at-birth archenemies or something.
"if Federer was set at 1.01 he would still be backed for milions of pounds."
Wouldn't doubt that, but somebody's got to do it (and they are mostly mugs).
Of course Federer's most likely to win, but 1.12 "huge value"? No. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 22:39:55
D.Carson.
164 (1520) Aces
+$1,302 ROI:+8.2% 55%
| | "Did you even watch their matches in Madrid & Miami?"
As a matter of fact, I did. Best-of-three set matches and questionable motivation as well. Did you even watch any of their previous Grand Slam matches? Is Roddick capable of beating Federer? No. Is there anything in the world that Federer gets more enjoyment out of than beating Roddick? No. Here is a fact - if Federer was set at 1.01 he would still be backed for milions of pounds. And you think if Roddick "rallies all day" he will frustrate Federer? Lol. Roddick will be getting a true kicking in this match and he knows it. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 22:23:51
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | "Only possibly value on something if it has a chance of winning - Roddick doesn't"
If Federer wins easily 3-0 tomorrow, that still won't ever justify a ridiculous statement like that.
And where'd you pluck >96% from - implied odds >25. Even if you take his winning percentage vs Roddick (which isn't that good an indicator as it ignores circumstantial factors at time) - 87% it implies odds of 7.69 on Roddick. If Roddick, among other things, plays to Federer's weak match-ups, i.e. rally all day and frustrate him into errors, then he's got more chance than 87% of winning and he's better suited to do so than ever before. Did you even watch their matches in Madrid & Miami? |
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| | Jul 4 2009 22:08:40
D.Carson.
164 (1520) Aces
+$1,302 ROI:+8.2% 55%
| | | Don't be ridiculous bioqwerty. Federer 1.12 is huge value as it's absolute free money in this match. Only possibly value on something if it has a chance of winning - Roddick doesn't. Federer has a bigger than 96% chance. So 8.4 is certainly not value. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 22:03:39
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | | Roddick fan lol - I'm not anybody's fan; reality check is that if you're looking at value bets 8.6 w/Betfair or even 8.4 w/ WBX is more value than anything sub-1.15 on Federer as I see it considering their previous match prices. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 20:22:30
MrLeusk (Mod)
164 (601) Aces
+$301 ROI:+26.2% 38%
| | There must be some very loyal Roddick fans if they are willing to put real money on him over Federer on Sunday.
Here is a reality check: If Roddick is going to beat Federer in the final of Wimbledon, is it going to happen after Federer has held serve for the entire week leading up to the match? |
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| | Jul 4 2009 18:37:50
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
+$0 ROI:+0.0% 0%
| | Roddick got his tactics spot on vs Murray in the SF. And despite having faced and lost to Federer 3 further times already this year with Stefanki as coach, I think they'll probably get the tactics spot on here again - and there have been signs in the previous two matches that Roddick's improved defensive game has got to Federer. Those tactics being to stick with him in the rallies: move Federer around but also back him into his backhand corner where he'll try running around his bh, and as he has done numerous times with defensive-minded players like Simon & Murray (albeit on hardcourts), hope that he loses his timing and starts shanking a few fhs. Also not to go for too much on the Federer serve just try to get in conservative but deep returns.
The odds for Roddick have drifted out and I still think he should be <7.0 so seems value here. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 18:29:41
koliopp
72 (1817) Aces
+$509 ROI:+4.7% 51%
| | 3-0
better returner better net player these 2 are monster advantages
not to mention mental aspect |
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| | Jul 4 2009 17:20:28
superduper
102 (5342) Aces
-$246 ROI:-2.6% 60%
| | Value bet by Comparative.Excel.Program!
(Including Dynamics per set @ http://superduper-tennis.blogspot.com/) |
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| | Jul 4 2009 17:13:04
irisuii
337 (1707) Aces
-$269 ROI:-6.6% 65%
| | | @rafaking I don"t agree expressions like "best ever"...this is the reason of my upset! I understand your joke...and, btw, I like Rafa"s play, perhaps you deduce this thing in my attitude against Federer"s crowd ...Good luck! |
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| | Jul 4 2009 16:55:35
theforecaster
4 (555) Aces
+$252 ROI:+6.5% 84%
| | Roger federer will produce another masterclass that wil hieghten the grand slam ice-berg to never before seen heights!and wil becum the no.1 player again.He has been sublime during the championships,has dropped only one set during the championships so far.Many call djo/muray/nadal the best returners but i think on grass roger is the best.The way he aborbers the pace of big 1st serves...that deadly sliced backhand that stabs rite into the feet of oppoents allows him to approach the net sumtimes and draw errors.His forehand is the best shot in tennis and works best on grass, footwork is silent and as efficient as a robot.Moves so quickly to hit big forehands that it near impossible to read it ..i.e whther he is gona hit inside out or down the line.His own serve is wordlclass and the most accurate may b.The only man who can counter his variety (rafael nadal) is missing so roger is matchless here!
Roddick played the mtch of his life on grass! His hitting especially from the backhand side was sublime...didnt panic to take balls on rise and wasnt content to floating balls back into play so went for extra.Stefanki has been telling rodik to hit more penetrative forehands and reduce the anount of topspin and the american has fruitfully done it in wimbledon 09 thus far.Roddik's 1st serve % has been remarkable and when serving at the level he does,its very tough to return but roger's treatment againstn IVO serve was excellent.Roddik will provide a good contest and may snag a set.BUT roger is destined to make it 15 and wont allow andy to win his 1st wimb! roger in 3 or 4 entertainig sets!!! |
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| | Jul 4 2009 16:49:53
age007
124 (820) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 16:28:47
jgrover
0 (795) Aces
-$162 ROI:-40.6% 50%
| | Roddick played a very impressive match against Murray, and confounded most tennis experts who had written him off. His serving was excellent, with 75% of 1st serves in and a powerful 2nd serve. But the revelation was his all court game where he completely dominated Murray. He used deep approach shots followed by great volleying at the net, clever drop shots and powerful balls to the corners which Murray struggled to get to. He maintained and dominated rallies and made far fewer errors than he used to. Murray was on the back foot for most of the match, always reacting to initiatives taken by Roddick. In the past, Roddick would often get broken near the end of sets because he tightened up and played passively, just returning the ball down the centre of the court. He seems to handle pressure better now and agressively goes for the corners and lines at pressure moments.
Federer's match against Haas was completely different, it was a close match and Federer didn't dominate Haas. Federer's serving was excellent but there was not much to choose between them in the rallies. Federer showed a slight lack of focus with some lazy drop shots which landed in the net, and under pressure he still sometimes overhit his forehand. I think his weakness is his backhand side, where he overuses the slice giving his opponent time and making his returns predictable.
Murray showed how to beat Federer, when he totally dismantled him at Indian Wells in March 2009, by the simple tactic of returning practically every ball to Federer's backhand side, which resulted in Federer's backhand cracking under the strain.
Roddick is on fire, he is serving well and is full of confidence after disposing of Hewitt and Murray. He is playing aggressively, moving into the net, and will not sit back and allow Federer to dominate the match.
If Federer doesn't break Roddick, then Roddick stands a good chance in tiebreaks, and may confound the experts for a second time. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 15:56:29
julian
0 (169) Aces
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| | | If Andy can play the way he has against Hewitt and Murray then he is a chance. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 15:34:50
johndory49 (Mod)
366 (19598) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 13:51:04
aberdons
202 (1565) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 13:15:31
nggeewor
79 (372) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 12:37:37
rafaking
1 (539) Aces
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| | | @irisuii - If Roddick has a 'gorgeous forehand' than Hanescu has the best serve ever. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 12:04:52
monster
11 (91) Aces
-$501 ROI:-8.7% 76%
| | | The question is-Which Andy is going to show up on game day? The one who nearly lost to an injured Hewitt through wasted opportunities or the one that crushed British hearts against the odds? The difference between Andy Roddick and the Swiss master is about nearly one foot, that is that when Federer makes an unforced error whilst returning serve or rallying it misses lines by inches rather than A-Rods foot plus mistakes, this gives him higher percentage opportunities of actually hitting winners, snagging those one or two extra points against serve to allow for break opportunities which he may well take. Sorry A-Rod, the shows been good up to this point, Third time 'unlucky' is how his one shall end! |
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| | Jul 4 2009 11:47:39
irisuii
337 (1707) Aces
-$269 ROI:-6.6% 65%
| | Federer, Federer all say Federer...It makes me angry! Nobody see Roddick"s stamina, value, cleverness...Federer is the best player, all say this thing, but you, guys, did ever see Laver"s play, Perry's play, Borg's or Connors' play ? We can not compare these periods, maybe Federer is the best now but we can not say he is the best ever...
Punisher , my friend, calm down...You are Federer"s fan , I understand this thing , but you must see generations and generations of players for making a comparision...
Actually, let's joy about tennis, without vain ...
So,this final is a great ocassion for Roddick to prove that he is a huge player and serve is not his only advantage...
I like his determination, he increase his backhand and he has a gorgeous forehand, too!
The mental chapter can make the diferrence, but Federer has more pressure in this war!
Roddick, it is his chance! |
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| | Jul 4 2009 09:06:50
brumbiesjeff (Mod)
483 (3629) Aces
-$206 ROI:-13.1% 71%
| | Finally here we have the long awaited final but not as many predicted between Murray and Federer. So a victory over No. 6-seeded Andy Roddick of the USA at the All England Club today will give Federer his 15th Grand Slam singles championship, breaking a tie with Sampras for the most in history. It also would give Federer a sixth Wimbledon title and a return to No. 1 in the rankings.
As it is, No. 2 Federer's overwhelming 7-6 (3), 7-5, 6-3 victory over No. 24 Tommy Haas of Germany in Friday's opening match on Centre Court put the Swiss star in a seventh consecutive Wimbledon final and 20th career Grand Slam final.
As for Roddick this final will cause some nightmares before the game and maybe after as well, the sad stats are that Roddick is 2-18 against Federer, including losses in the 2004 and 2005 Wimbledon finals, as well as the 2006 U.S. Open final.
BrumbiesJeff has Fedex winning this Grandslam final in straight sets.
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| | Jul 4 2009 08:36:04
paulmurphy (Mod)
Ace Leader #2
2993 (26116) Aces
+$41 ROI:+0.2% 77%
| | Wonderful win by Roddick who was aggressive and served at the high standard we've come to expect.
What was a little unexpected from him were his invariably successful forays to the net, his change-ups, the consistent excellence of his forehand and backhand and the huge damage he meted out to Murray's vulnerable second serve.
It was a masterclass in the art of using everything you've got to beat a player considered to have more weapons than you.
Murray was disappointing - I know only a few points separated them but to me the gulf was much wider.
He was tentative and passive, his second serve was poor (that is what I and some others principally "missed" in assessing this match) and his killer forehand and backhand were rarely sighted except generally when he was on the stretch.
He handed the intitiative to Roddick and the American took it with both hands.
I think it's worth analysing what happened in that match in the process of picking a winner here.
Let's see what Federer won't do - unlike Murray he will be aggressive and look to strike early in the rallies (such as they are).
He will look to put immense pressure on Roddick's second ball and he will use all the variety he possesses (and he has more than any other player) to mix things up, draw Roddick forward, push him wide etc etc etc.
One thing that very much sets him apart from Murray is his second serve - it's the best in the business and at times is almost indistinguishable from his first.
Roddick simply won't get anywhere near the haul of points he got from Murray in that area.
We talked about Murray having more weapons than Roddick - well yesterday at least that wasn't the case - but in Federer's case it's an indisputable fact.
He has much more to trouble Roddick with than the reverse as the H2H suggests.
But I saw their match in Miami this year which Fed won 6-3 4-6 6-4 and let me tell you Fed was a little lucky in that one - Roddick was in that match all the way.
Conversely I also saw their match at the AO this year when Fed was streets ahead and simply untroubled.
I think the result of this match will be somewhere in between - Roddick may jag a set but the question for me is:
Can he take three sets off Federer on grass at Wimbledon?
I think the answer is "No". |
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| | Jul 4 2009 08:14:25
SimonP
0 (5796) Aces
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| | | Feder leads 20:3 but now it is a time for ARod for 4th triumph. Roddick has played really magnificent tournement so far. Yesterday I lost $600 on Murray and now it is payback time. Andy do it for British community. Murray anihilator has a duty to win whole tournement. Anyway I think it will be a 5 setter with just few breaks of serves and at least 3 tie breaks. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 08:13:56
supersi (Mod)
855 (7413) Aces
+$6 ROI:+0.1% 87%
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| | Jul 4 2009 08:04:26
loewen
1 (56) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 05:56:18
peruvia
25 (491) Aces
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| | Jul 4 2009 02:56:41
angelamerkel (Champ)
277 (2374) Aces
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| | Roddick was incredible against Murray. Before the match I thought that Murray would dominate all open points and Roddick would just try to live from his serve. But It was almost the other way around. Murray was serving a lot of aces and Roddick played extremly well in long rallies. With his improving return game, Roddick can win 1,2 or even 3 tie breaks against Fedex.
So I think Over is the wise choice here. |
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| | Jul 4 2009 01:32:32
doclribeiro
0 (412) Aces
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| | Jul 3 2009 23:51:58
relopez
334 (450) Aces
+$516 ROI:+3.0% 81%
| | Well, we all know how this will end... don't we.
Well done on beating Murray, british c***.
Sorry to see Roger regain number one but my fellow Spaniard had no chance... once he's 100% he will restore order. Well done Fed you have prooved all the doubters wrong, i knew you still had it in you...You can still beat everyone ...except a fully fit Nadal and Murray |
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| | Jul 3 2009 23:35:26
mistaflava
453 (4995) Aces
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| | Jul 3 2009 22:43:21
willpies
134 (1950) Aces
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| | Jul 3 2009 22:29:15
Tennistic (Admin)
37 (1529) Aces
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| | Some unofficial statistics going off my spreadsheet:
** All Ranks expressed against top 2 remaining players in draw **
Roddick
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Winners & Unforced Errors
(EXCLUDING ACES)
171 / 112 Ratio 1.53, Rank 2
Winners per point played .11, Rank 2
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Aces & Double Faults
160 / 12 Ratio 13.33, Rank 1
Ace on 22.5% of Service Points, Rank 1 in frequency
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Points at Net
Won 154 of 239 approaches - winning 64.4%, Rank 2
Comes to Net on 15.8% of points, Rank 1 in frequency
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Points Won (53.6%)
Pl W 331, Opp FE 322, Opp UFE 155
Pl W 21.9%, Opp FE 21.4%, Opp UFE 10.3%
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Points Lost (46.4%)
Opp W 306, Pl FE 282, Pl UFE 112
Opp W 20.3%, Pl FE 18.7%, Pl UFE 7.4%
Federer
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Winners & Unforced Errors
(EXCLUDING ACES)
162 / 71 Ratio 2.28, Rank 1
Winners per point played .14, Rank 1
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Aces & Double Faults
77 / 8 Ratio 9.63, Rank 2
Ace on 13.9% of Service Points, Rank 2 in frequency
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Points at Net
Won 124 of 166 approaches - winning 74.7%, Rank 1
Comes to Net on 14.7% of points, Rank 2 in frequency
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Points Won (56.6%)
Pl W 239, Opp FE 277, Opp UFE 123
Pl W 21.2%, Opp FE 24.5%, Opp UFE 10.9%
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Points Lost (43.4%)
Opp W 180, Pl FE 239, Pl UFE 71
Opp W 15.9%, Pl FE 21.2%, Pl UFE 6.3%
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Tournament Average for Points Won (ditto on points lost)
W 17.7%, FE 20.7%, UFE 11.6% |
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:58:35
sliced_backhand
0 (849) Aces
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| | Only if pigs fly will Roddick stop Federer from breaking Sampras' all time grand slam record. Andy Murray at times had break point opportunities at 0-40 on the Roddick serve but twice couldn't grab them.
Roddick won't have such luck vs Federer who is just a genius. Did you guys see that slice lob which he played against Murray. Amazing stuff man. Ever year he adds a new element to his game. Federer in straight sets is tempting, still contemplating it. |
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:58:28
bjk01903
62 (337) Aces
+$827 ROI:+7.3% 76%
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:50:47
bignige
115 (257) Aces
+$886 ROI:+16.8% 43%
| | | biogwerty123: dw i'n byw yng gaerdydd nawr, ond dw i'n dod o'r rhondda yn wreiddiol. |
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:44:38
pumper (Read Only)
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:42:15
slumdog
0 (48) Aces
+$35 ROI:+3.6% 67%
| | | The great Roger will win this!!! |
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:29:34
nadalin
387 (3494) Aces
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| | Jul 3 2009 21:01:51
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
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| | | Rhywle yn De Orllewin Cymru. A chi? |
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| | Jul 3 2009 20:35:12
bignige
115 (257) Aces
+$886 ROI:+16.8% 43%
| | biogwerty123: ble da chi'n wreiddiol, hefyd?
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| | Jul 3 2009 20:34:04
bignige
115 (257) Aces
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| | | carson: ble da chi'n wreiddiol? |
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| | Jul 3 2009 20:18:13
tallguy71
13 (981) Aces
+$424 ROI:+2.9% 58%
| | Big respect to all the people who tipped Roddick on the basis they thought he had a serious chance of winning.
With hindsight Roddick always had a chance if Murray served poorly and played to passively for long periods like he did vs Wawrinka.
Murray needs to sort his first serve out and produce a greater level of consistency on it if he wants to achieve greatness and also imrprove his second service as its a major weakness at times. I think he has become to passive a player as well and i feel he may need to become more aggresive if he wants to become world no 1 and start winning GS's on a regular basis.
He's still young though and has plenty of time to becpome a more complete player, which i hope he does as he has the raw talent.
For this match it's Fedex for sure and and i'm going 3-0 in sets. |
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| | Jul 3 2009 20:15:38
IndoGambler
261 (1406) Aces
+$1,140 ROI:+18.6% 55%
| | Same Old Story, I am really missing Rafa. Roger will recover his world number one without beating him in a GS...
Well done Roger, Roddick is not a player to cause Roger mheadaches, maybe he can steal a TB, but no more, |
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| | Jul 3 2009 20:12:08
bioqwerty123
0 (1009) Aces
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| | Carson, rhaid i ti fod cellweirus 'da dwli fel 'na: "beautiful and charming" lol.
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barkas
0 (104) Aces
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